ParkerPGibson

Steely Dan ParkerPGibson

April 2, 2020
edited about 1 year ago
Steely Dan is a great sounding group. The only unfortunate thing is there isn't demand to flat transfer all of their albums to DSD and released as SACD. Pretzel Logic was flat transferred to DSD and released, and that is truly a pleasure to hear. I think releasing their albums on SACD would be the greatest thing Steely Dan could do, since they had such high standards in their recording processes. It is such a waste to leave those tapes untouched with the current technology we have to grab every little nuance from the tape. Current technology makes the difference between analog and digital transparent. I wish some audiophile label (like Analogue Productions or Mobile Fidelity) would do the honour of producing a double layered SACD box set of their classic albums from '72 to '80. I see it as a crime to let the full potential of their albums go to waste. I am aware that in the early 1980s, Roger Nichols produced digital archives of all of their albums. Most of it is fine, but the downside is there are anomalies that were created due to the early technology of digital. I believe the transfers were 16 bit 48khz sample rate. I find that to not be ideal, since audiophiles tend to use DSD or 24 bit 192khz sample rate. I wish Steely Dan would get more demand and respect for the quality of their music. I am aware that Donald Fagen can be quite stubborn when it comes to something like this, especially since he, Walter, and Roger saw the 1997 transfers as inferior. Very finicky, if you ask me. I'm sure the tapes sound great, especially with the example of Pretzel Logic and Countdown to Ecstasy. Also, the current CD releases of all of Steely Dan's albums are inferior and suck. They use a crappy noise reduction and compression and sharp equalization which ruins my listening experience. The opposite of audiophile. People are getting the false belief that all their tapes were destroyed but the truth is that not all the tapes were destroyed. Most likely it would be some of the original multi-tracks that would've been lost. Pretty sure all of the original master tapes of the albums are fine, and if some aren't, keep in consideration that Roger Nichols produced 1st generation copies of all Steely Dan's work. He had a second reel-to-reel machine running just to avoid generation loss. So, technically, all of their albums can be transferred and properly mastered to DSD by a well-respected audio engineer.
ParkerPGibson

Steely Dan ParkerPGibson

April 12, 2020
Honestly, the issue I have with the 1999 remasters is the fact there is a noise-reduction processing which makes everything sound processed. It is especially noticeable at the fade outs of the tracks. Also, the 1999 remasters are far too bright and feature a fair amount of compression and limitations, making the music not pop as it is supposed to. Disappointing when they use noise reduction, no one cares about low tape hiss from the master tapes. That was part of the recording and removing it adds digital artifacts, ruining the overall experience.
foothillguy

Steely Dan foothillguy

April 8, 2020
I just recently heard the 1999 remastered CD of Aja, and it blew my mind, and I assume that the LP is even better, so I don't know what more anyone could want. In about 1997, Nichols got an Apogee AD-8000 24-bit 48KHz (max) 8-channel ADC, and I assume that he used it to dub the SD masters in his personal archive, and that these digital masters are the basis of the remasters. The 1982 digital masters aren't bad, although they have a dry high end and don't have analog-grade spaciousness or imaging. The Greatest Hits digital master was apparently made in about 1993 with a 1st-gen digital deck retrofitted with Apogee filters, because the CD sounds very analog and frankly blows the doors off the Very Best Of CD, which is based on the 1982 digital masters.
mikeh69

Steely Dan mikeh69

July 12, 2019
edited about 1 year ago
Steely Dan.... Well Fagen you might as well keep touring... Cause if all the Steely Dan multi tracks and master tapes were in that Universal Fire in 2008 your screwed in ever making another remix or a remaster... And this absolutely sucks... 2008 can you believe how far back this went and the story just hit. The lies deceit and just shitty. Cause these records never really got remixed in the here and now. Gaucho got a surround mix. But still Katy Lied never got the repair it needed since 1975. Steely Dan is really dead. Not just Walter but the work it's fried up ... Unless a miracle their tapes were cleared out of Universal before that freakin building went up all in flames... I doubt it.
leonthepro

Steely Dan leonthepro

December 21, 2020
DailyNightly
Okay boomer. Someone needs to chill real bad. Bad acid trip perhaps?

Dont worry, this guy is always making nonsense posts.
DailyNightly

Steely Dan DailyNightly

January 25, 2020
Okay boomer. Someone needs to chill real bad. Bad acid trip perhaps?
mikeh69

Steely Dan mikeh69

January 24, 2020
edited about 1 year ago
No response to this ... Really ? Do you wonder why since the Cisco Aja reissue there has not been any new remixing and new remastering or a VINYL REISSUE SERIES FROM THE MASTER TAPES OR SAY A REMIX SERIES FROM OH SAY STEVE WILSON OR SOMEONE BETTER. Anyone want to take a guess ? Cause with Walter gone I could care less with Fagen touring Donald Dan around year after year... This was a guy in his 20's in the 1970's gave up touring to hang in the studio... NOW it's the other way around.. He's a boring redundant touring circus... Meanwhile the tapes and recordings..... WHAT ?? Hello ??
MISTER_DIA-TRIBE_73

Steely Dan as reviewed by MISTER_DIA-TRIBE_73

July 10, 2019
edited about 1 year ago
What a band!!! For years I reacted towards my dad to playing this... WTF is this mellow shit I asked...He replied its better than the shit you play upstairs...? Back in the late 1980s I was listening to early Electro and Hip Hop... Then I progressed to Techno , New Beat .. Then Acidhouse hardcorerave darkside hardcore jungle gabber and everything in-between.... But my dad got me into King Crimson.. ELP. CSN&Y . Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, "I fear not a man who has practiced 10000 kicks once, but I fear a man who has practiced 1 kick 10000 times" - Bruce LeeAnd Steely Dan... Amongst others... Oh and Hendrix! ... And my mum got me into funk and the electronic side.... Parents are twats most of the time... But music solves or makes you realize the make up of the person.. Ie if the music sounds shit to your ears.. Give it a second try a few years later... If it still sounds shit after that... Forget it! No hesitation!
djmifume

Steely Dan djmifume

March 3, 2019
all transcription releases looks very unprofessional in the albums section :-(
should be filed under miscellaneous?
Steven-Hartka

Steely Dan Steven-Hartka

April 2, 2021
I would have to agree! It looks a bit sloppy.